You know what time it is! Dame 4 time.
You Can Find the adidas Dame 4 now at Eastbay.com
Traction /// Inspired by the passage of time. Wait. What? I’m being serious. Within the description for the Dame 4’s tech specs, the pattern is said to be inspired by the passage of time. I had no idea what time passing by even looked like until now.
Sarcasm aside, the pattern worked and it worked really well. It’s aggressive and provides coverage in multiple directions. The channels are placed wide enough apart to allow any dust that may be present to pass on by — like the passage of time. Dust may get stuck in the areas of the pattern that are pretty tight but it rarely happened — and my local 24 is really dusty all the damn time. If dust got in the way I quickly wiped it away and forgot all about it until it happened again. Which, again, rarely happened.
Would I play in the Dame 4 outdoors? Probably not. I don’t think the pattern would last very long and the rubber is on the softer side. I did not take them for a spin outdoors so I’m not sure if it works well. However, indoors they are awesome.
Cushion /// Same cushion setup and implementation as the Dame 2 and 3, but the Dame 4 gets even lower to the ground than ever before. Does this mean that you lose some of the feeling that Bounce brings to the table? Yes. There is less “bounce” to the Bounce, at least in the forefoot. This section sits very low to the ground. While this does sacrifice some cushion, you’ll gain greater court feel which allows you to feel as if you have a quicker first step. Meanwhile, the heel still feels like the Bounce that you and I have come to know and love.
Luckily, Bounce is good enough that it can sit lower to the floor without making you feel like you’re playing in a super firm cushion. While you’ll notice that it isn’t quite as plush as the previous versions, you’ll also notice that it isn’t as unforgiving as other low profile setups like Phylon, basic EVA, React, and Charged.
Materials /// The materials will differ between colorways — which I find annoying — but the builds that I typically prefer are the textile ones. This year, mesh is back and it’s an open celled mesh that allows for much better air flow than what we received on the Dame 3.
Within the mesh are black wire threads that add strength against stretching while a PU spray coats the textile to give it some additional strength against abrasion. These materials break-in nice and quickly without losing any strength afterwards. This was a trait that they have in common with the Dame 3. Yet, this time around the material doesn’t feel as plastic-y — something some didn’t enjoy when comparing the Dame 3s TPU infused knit to something like the Crazy Explosive’s Primeknit.
Additionally, there is a compression collar, and to my surprise, it actually worked. This was my first time experiencing true compression in the heel and ankle collar area of a sneaker and I f***ing loved it. Yes, I’ve tried the compression collars from other brands and I was unimpressed. Sloppy fit, loose compression (which is the opposite of true compression), and they just looked bad.
I tweaked my ankle the night before I swapped to the Dame 4 (after someone undercut me while I went to land after shooting the ball). It’s the same damn ankle that gets tweaked nearly every time someone does this to me and I usually wear my brace afterward to help keep things in place while it heals.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t fit my foot with a brace inside of the Dame 4 (if you wear a brace regularly you may want to consider bringing the brace with you to a retailer carrying the shoe so you can see what size works best) so I decided to just play without the brace — I told myself I wouldn’t “play hard.” Which, if you play pickup ball regularly, means that as soon as someone asks you to run you’re about to play much harder than you told yourself you would.
The compression from the collar worked so well that once things warmed up and got loose I was pretty much good to go. Something I haven’t experienced in any shoe — ever — and I’ve worn a lot of shoes over the years.
Now, I’m not saying this area will solve your ankle issues. All I’m saying is that the compression here is real and it was able to replace what I would have been using my brace for (compression). I know some will read this and think I’m saying you can throw away your brace. Not what I’m saying at all. I simply tweaked my ankle and these supplied me with what I needed in order to play while things were still tender. Compression.
Fit /// I own two pairs of the Dame 4, one in my usual size and one 1/2 size down. I prefer the 1/2 size down. Those with wide feet may want to go true to size — the slight bit of extra length will likely accommodate your wider foot once the materials and midsole break-in. As always, try the Dame 4 on in-store to be 100% sure that the shoe’s fit will work for you.
Lockdown is incredible. Half of this is due to the compression collar while the other half is due to the lacing. The cables that make up the eyelets on the Dame 4 are really strong as they’re coated with rubber. Once you’ve got the lacing done up in a way that you like then you’re pretty much set and won’t feel the need to re-lace them at all.
I’ve only experienced heel slip in the original D Lillard 1 and I cannot speak on that with these. To me, the entire shoe fit me perfectly 1-to-1 and felt like they were made for me. Heel slip is something that usually comes with sloppy fit or because the wearer isn’t wearing their true size. Again, I’ve only had this issue with the original Dame’s and it was due to the heel being very sloppy all around. Ever since the Dame 2, I’ve loved the way they fit — so long as you make sure you’re wearing your appropriate size.
Support /// This is where the Dame 3 and 4 are similar, but also where you can really feel the evolution between designs. Much like the Dame 3, the Dame 4’s midsole wraps up and around your foot ensuring your foot remains on the footbed where it belongs. The difference here is that the midsole sculpt isn’t as exaggerated — dare I say, it’s minimal in design — yet still pulls off the same effect.
I think having the Dame 4 sit lower to the ground also helped designers keep the midsole sculpt leaner as you don’t need too much cupping action when you’re not too far off the floor. Combine the midsole sculpt with a fairly flat and stable base, extended lateral mold offering a more natural outrigger, internal heel counter, midfoot torsional shank (internal), and a wonderful 1-to-1 fit and you have yourself one hell of a shoe.
Overall /// The adidas Dame 3 was my current top pick for 2017 (it released late December which pushes them into the 2017 lineup) but the Dame 4 just replaced them. It offers very similar performance features but you can feel the evolution between the two after playing in them.
I’d say the biggest difference is that the Dame 4 isn’t as heavy/bulky/clunky feeling when compared to the Dame 3. Otherwise, they both offer the same stuff. Cushion is slightly better in the forefoot with the 3, but Bounce is so good that it still works well when it’s thinned out a bit.
The Dame line continues to be the best signature you can get for your money. Bang for your buck like no other. You know what time it is. Dame time.
Not Really my tipe , I just have bought Orzhaus , i love the brand because it´s exclusive and have a unique design.
I like some NB and Nike models too.
What are some of the other low top options that are close to zero drop (heel to toe) and are low to the ground? AJXX2 Low?
Idk about aj xx2 but dame 2 and 3 were good. Kyrie has got bit of a drop but the circular shape of sole offsets that by a lot and is pretty low to the ground.
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Thanks Chris. Appreciate the review. I really liked the 2s but couldn’t get over the lacing nor the tongue wing to try out the 3s. Definitely excited now to try out the 4s when I see a color I like. These on miadidas would also be great (talk about a steal for a customized signature shoe).
Agree with the compression. It surprisingly works!! The way they hug your feet/ankles is just amazing!
It sucks the all black colorway is only for youth 🙁
My favorite shoe right now, the Dame 4s! KD7s were also one of my top shoes but this one takes the cake. Being low to the ground and having a firm cushion, just enough to keep my feet and knees happy is my favorite aspects of the shoe.
Once again, another fantastic review by NW! Keep it up!!
Guys, a quick question: Do you have any ‘rituals’ when trying out a new pair of basketball shoes at the local retail? Like jumping or running in them?
I just want to point out that the reinforcement on the laces of your pair (as well as on the product images on Eastbay) is black. However, images on the adidas website and even images of Dame wearing the Rip City 4’s I found here on Weartesters.com seem to have a red reinforcement. Maybe you have an exclusive pair? Just curious.
Oops. I meant the images on your review, not the pair you have in the video.
Sidenote: haven’t played basketball since college, 15 years ago, so old schoolish Jordans were my last shoes. So I bought these as my first shoe since then and I LOVED the compression fit. The problem is my feet don’t and they straight up hurt after just wearing them around the house (it’s an issue with shoes with too much compression). My issue is I do have weak ankles and I want a good structured shoe (non-hightop) but I can’t handle this new compression stuff. Any suggestions on some to try? I’m leaning towards the Jordan 32’s or a retro pair of what I wore in high school in the 90s.
One thing I want to mention and maybe see if anyone has similar experience in these shoes – the sock collar is nice, and definitely has great compression. Feels great. However, I personally have sore ankles after playing – as if the compression is too tight. Anyone else have this issue? Also – for information – the version showed up here has different materials than other versions of the shoe. I personally went with the tan version bc they have more flex and stretch for the lateral part of my toes. The white version showed here that I tried on, didn’t stretch as much and kind of hurt my toes.
Are the cables that hold the laces strong enough and durable ? Thats my only question.. The dont look like storng enough to hold over time. Any answer will be very helpful !! Thank you guys !
I am intrigued but your love of the Dame 3 makes me skeptical, I guess we are just different types of players. I don’t mean to pan it, it was a fine shoe, but nothing remarkable to me. What I liked best about it was the bounciness of of the cushion, which is diminished here. It had a supportive fit but I didn’t think much of its durability or overall fit. Narrow for me and the fit at the sides was awkward also. I do like that these have a real compression system at the ankle and a more forgiving fit.
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