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Nike Kobe 8 SYSTEM Performance Review

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Posted: December 29, 2012 at 10:52 pm   /   by   /   comments (244)

It’s that time again…

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Traction – Best traction on a Kobe, hands down. The rubber is soft and the pattern – herringbone – is awesome on practically any indoor court no matter the condition. If you hoop outdoors then you will want the XDR outsole option otherwise you will grind the rubber down rather quickly due to it being so soft.

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Cushion – Lunarlon is amazing foam. Besides Micro G, Lunarlon would be my choice as far as foam cushions are concerned. What is so great about foam cushions – especially Lunarlon – is that it absorbs and distributes impact evenly throughout which will help your joints out in the long run. What I like best about this setup overall is that the Lunarlon is full length so you will wear it down evenly over time without losing any comfort like you would with the Hyperdunk 2012’s Lunarlon setup.

Additionally, if you play primarily indoors, all you’d need to do is buy another midsole insert via NIKEiD.com and you can have these last for quite some time.

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Material – Engineered mesh sounded cool but looked scary. Luckily it isn’t scary at all and there was much more Fuse placed on the shoe than what you can actually see. Not only did this keep things light but it also added a ton of structure and support so even though you have a shoe that weighs in at a mere 9.6 Oz… you would never know it by how much support & structure is readily available.

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Fit – They fit true to size. Eastbay lists them as narrow – if you have really wide feet I could see that – but they don’t feel anywhere near as snug as the Kobe 7. If I were to compare the fit with any previous Kobe model it would have to be the 6.

Lockdown isn’t just available… its freaking awesome. There are little pillows along the center of the tongue, allowing you the ability to lace up your kicks as tight as possible without cutting off circulation, and the overall containment is top notch… especially for a shoe that looks more like a runner than a traditional hoop shoe.

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Also, don’t wear the Kobe Elite socks… just a warning. If you don’t know why I say this then you missed all three Performance Teasers… yes, there were three.

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Ventilation – It’s not insanely well ventilated but it is the most well ventilated Kobe to date. With the fit and the appropriate sock, they feel just fine. I personally don’t require too much ventilation so long as the materials are able to retain their shape & these do that just fine.

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Support – The support is mostly coming from the outstanding fit. There is a heel clip to help keep your heel in place as well as a glass based Carbon Fiber shank for torsional rigidity and support. Inside the shoe, the Lunarlon midsoles do have a molded arch in place as well. For those of you that use orthotics, you may want to consider grabbing the Zoom Air laced orthotic ready insole option – available on NIKEiD.

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Overall – Traction –awesome. Cushion – amazing. Materials – innovative beyond belief. Fit – pretty much perfect. Ventilation – the best it’s ever been on a Kobe signature. Support – plenty.

What else is there to say? If you are a Guard then this is a shoe that you can – and will – appreciate. Sure, they let most of us down with the Kobe 7’s – I say most of us because there are a few who enjoyed those – but they really made up for it with the Kobe 8.

Light done right… and better than the other guys.

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  • December 29, 2012 at 10:59 pm J-Smoove

    Does the Lunarlon of these shoes give you the same amount of comfort as the Lunarlon of the running shoes?
    Excellent review, as always and a great way to start the 2013 list. Thank you for your reviews!

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    • December 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm Nightwing2303

      I like these a little more than the running setup just because the running setup is usually thinner – not always but usually – so these have ‘more’ cushion. But its all the same foam and I think Nike states that the basketball setup is specific to the sport. Not sure how accurate that is though.

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      • December 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm J-Smoove

        How is the fit at the forefoot compared to the Lunar Hyperdunk?

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        • December 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm Nightwing2303

          HDs are more snug.

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          • September 13, 2014 at 6:30 pm James

            Would you think wearing a normal nike elite world be better for court play or a hyperelite ?

        • December 30, 2012 at 1:56 am ian

          i was about to ask the same question.

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      • February 12, 2013 at 11:29 pm rishi gill

        ho do make such good reviews every time hats your secret lol love watching your videos !! gonna ask my parents to get me the kicks on court water bottle !!! im 12 big fan only been watching
        since middle 2012 !!!

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      • March 17, 2013 at 5:22 pm Mike

        I was wondering if the D rose is a better guard shoe than this. I’m a fast point guard who likes to drive a lot.

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    • May 9, 2013 at 2:06 am nightwing23_03

      i loved the kobe 8s
      the best shoe ever

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  • December 29, 2012 at 11:11 pm Ryan

    Can you stick to insoles from the AJ 2011 into these?

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  • December 29, 2012 at 11:13 pm Yoan

    Great review, as usual! Was really looking forward to it. Here’s to more sneakers in 2013!

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  • December 29, 2012 at 11:18 pm Drose is D man

    Any release date on the drose 3.5’s? Anything would be appreciated!

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    • December 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm Nightwing2303

      Nothing yet, maybe all-star weekend.

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      • October 28, 2013 at 7:03 am Jay De Leon

        Hey NiightWing…great site and ive always followed you through sneakerfiles.com…loving your every review here in Canada…i make it a point to see your review before i purchase a pair…great job always

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    • December 30, 2012 at 1:32 am Adam

      On footlocker.com it says 1/31

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  • December 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm Leon

    Hi. i’m using adiZero Speedwrap Ankle Brace. Are the Kobe 8 too low and they w give me the proper ankle support?
    Thanks

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    • December 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm Nightwing2303

      There is no such thing as ankle support. Additionally, there is a Support section in the review.

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      • January 6, 2013 at 1:57 pm Anthony

        What do you mean there is no such thing as ankle support?

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        • January 24, 2013 at 4:36 am Justin12

          He means that no matter what shoe you wear, you will still sprain your ankle. High or low top.

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      • February 19, 2014 at 6:39 pm Jepoy

        NW,

        I don’t understand why they still sell ankle support and why some wear it if it has no effects on your ankles? Do you have an explanation for this? I’m just curious I always thought of wearing ankle support to prevent ankle injuries.

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        • February 19, 2014 at 10:43 pm TVS

          If by ankle support you mean things like braces, as crazy as it may sound actually weakens your ankles. Because they are bearing the load and doing the job your natural muscles and ligaments are supposed to do, those muscles and such weaken, and you become reliant on such devices for activities outside of a jog across the street. It has long been abolished the myth you need high tops for more ankle support, and its all about the lockdown and stability starting in and around the heel. If you look at soccer players, they are able to be more agile because they wear what I call not low tops, but no top sneakers. And if you look they were also Kobe’s inspiration for suggesting low tops back with the Kobe IV’s….so braces and ankle supports are really for people who have an injury and are working their way back into form, or who are already in the habit and thus have terribly weak ankles. That I’m telling you from experience as I’ve played at all levels and in college had a PG who couldn’t play a game of pick up without braces on because he’d rolled his ankle like 5 times. He didn’t understand using the braces was what weakened them so much in the first place. It’s like being on bedrest a couple months and then trying to walk again. So yea to end this book lol, ankle support outside the sneaker, and high tops are unnecessary for an athlete with normal healthy ankles.

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          • February 22, 2014 at 3:43 pm A.M

            high tops are not unnecessary. Some hightops are great performers. Some people enjoy the mental placebo that they give for protection of the ankles which if it works, then it works.

  • December 29, 2012 at 11:45 pm hellomynameis

    hey, is does the kobe 7 inserts work in these? I saw a pic from Jefferrrson’s facebook and he had the attack strong midsole in the kobe 8s. i know you hated the kobe 7s inserts and probably won’t want to wear them again, but was just wondering, cuz i kinda liked the kobe 7s.

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    • December 29, 2012 at 11:52 pm Nightwing2303

      They arent the same thickness or shape so I wouldnt try it.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:02 am Sitanshu

    As always, great and informative review. I most predominantly play outdoors and I have had many shoes where down on me. Where do you recommend I find a Kobe 8 model with an XDR outsole? Is NikeID my only option?

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    • December 30, 2012 at 12:06 am Nightwing2303

      Thanks! As of now iD is the only option other than grabbing a pair of the Christmas version from Air-Knight.com but that will cost you a bit more. You can always call Nike and ask if they have plans of releasing more XDR versions.

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      • February 28, 2013 at 4:22 am Taylor

        what exactly does the kobe 8 system ID do

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      • April 15, 2013 at 9:17 pm Steve

        were all kobe 8 christmas made with XDR outsole? and if this is the case, how well do XDR outsoles perform indoors?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:06 am David Caalim

    Did the lack of fly wire have an impact on the support? I also noticed the outrigger is a lot smaller than the other Kobes, did you see a difference in lateral stability?

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    • December 30, 2012 at 12:10 am Nightwing2303

      Not at all. Flywire is great for containment of the foot and keeping in firm along the foot bed but its most recent usage would not be considered part of the shoes overall support, that comes from actual materials and not strands of cable. Lateral support from an outrigger is only really necessary when coming down or landing and since I’m more of a grounded player it did not affect me.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:09 am wtam1100

    Good review I want these so bad now. I literally almost went to the store and bought these even though I said i was going to wait for a different color way. Hopefully you wrist is doing better and you dont need any time off I’m going to need a review again on the AJ 28 lol. Really interested in what you are going to say about those. Thanks man.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:10 am Vince

    Hey nnightwing, Whichh shoe is better the zoom soldier 6 or the Hyperdunk 2012 in terms of fit. I have a slightly narrow foot.

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    • December 30, 2012 at 12:12 am Nightwing2303

      HD have a more snug fit.

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      • December 30, 2012 at 12:15 am Vince

        Thnx man appreciate it, keep up with dem good reviews. Best reviews on the planet

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        • December 30, 2012 at 6:44 pm john

          if you actually think about it he does have the best review in the planet

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:18 am mastergrim8

    Finally something that tops the kobe 4s. How well does the jordan 2011, jordan 2012 and kobe 7 elite midsoles fit in the kobe 8. I havent been this excited since the kobe 4 and its revolutionary design.

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    • December 30, 2012 at 12:27 am Nightwing2303

      The 2012s are the only ones that work.

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      • January 9, 2013 at 9:18 pm Darth

        Considering the sizing difference between Nike and jb, would the inserts from the same size Jordan 2012 fit in the Kobe 8s, or would I need to use sz11 aj2012 inserts in an 11.5 Kobe?

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        • January 9, 2013 at 9:21 pm Nightwing2303

          There is no difference in sizing between most brands. Nearly every single shoe i have is the same size. Your question was answered in the performance teasers, links should be avail at the bottom of the page.

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          • April 9, 2013 at 6:34 pm jojo

            hi nightwing any chance of AND1 reviews?

          • April 9, 2013 at 6:35 pm Nightwing2303

            Not at this time but maybe in the future.

      • March 24, 2013 at 10:30 pm Demetrius

        Can u do a review were u show a video of the Kobe 8 ankle support so my mom will let me get them

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:44 am James

    So was it the kobe socks that caused the slipping or dri fit socks in general?

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    • December 30, 2012 at 12:58 pm collins

      thank you for really paying attention and watching the video.

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      • December 30, 2012 at 3:24 pm James

        your welcome :)

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:47 am Sergey

    If you had to rank these in the 2012 top 10, where would they go?

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    • December 30, 2012 at 2:12 pm lewej16

      if u wouldnt mind me answering that, i think this will be ranked number 1 together with KD 5, if include this in the top 10 shoes of 2012.

      If im not mistaken, the top 10 shoes is base only on the overall score. So some almost perfect shoes, like the KD 5, would suffer drastically in the overall score.

      KD 5 is almost the perfect shoe except that it lacks ventilation which is, for most people, the least of their concerns.

      Lebron X, while it has the best shoe techs in the airmax/zoom unit, performance wise the Kobe 8 and KD 5 are slightly better.

      Hence, i think the Kobe 8 and the KD 5 should be both at number 1 with Lebron X and Rose 3 a close second. But of course if your a center, your better off with the Lebron X or KD 5.

      Of course all these are based from nightwings performance review which we (nightfanatics) believe is a very accurate, detailed and well-researched performance review of a shoe. Needless to say, the best shoe review in the world, far better than kicksology and black lotus (hahahaha ive been wanting to say that and i really dont know why).

      Sorry for the very long comment because i’m also curious how the Kobe 8 will fair against Lebron X and KD 5.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 1:40 am Indestructible

    Hey man, great review, I’m looking forward for these, just one question, is the translucent sole more durable in the ID option?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 1:59 am ian

    great review, i can feel the excitement from your voice!

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    • December 30, 2012 at 2:49 am ian

      damn, now it got me struggle between these and Penny V……….

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  • December 30, 2012 at 2:19 am zach

    Do you prefer these or the D Rose 3.0? And if you could make a comparison itd be much appreciated.
    Thanks!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 2:22 am Hunter

    great review. I’m on your site at least twice a day I love it. I play the 2 and the 3 spot and I’m playin with the hyperdunks right now and I’m thinking about getting the KD V. In your personal opinion should I get the KDs or are there better options? The only reason I rule out the Kobes is I prefer high tops. I really appreciate it. Thanks alot

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  • December 30, 2012 at 2:47 am jordan

    great review. my top priority for choosing shoes are the cushioning and comfort. I have the Lebron x and I love the cushioning, it’s literally walking on air. I’d like to know if the kobe 8 comes close or even better than the lebron x in that department. thanks! happy new year!

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    • June 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm Max

      The kobe 8s cushion comes from a full lunarlon midsole. Once you brea them in the Kobe’s foam is so comfortable it comes down to preference in other categories, because I have both but use Kobe’s to ball

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  • December 30, 2012 at 3:20 am jacky

    i have ankle brace on both foot with the kobe 8. i can say this is the best shoes even u wear ankle brace. it just fits amazing due to the low cut.

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    • December 30, 2012 at 3:40 am Leon

      Thanks.

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      • January 23, 2014 at 11:35 pm Trung

        what ankle brace do you use?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 3:44 am A

    If I’ve got low arches/nearly flat feet, will the raised area(arch support) on the lunarlon insole be pushed down and molded to my foot over time? Or do you think the arch support will jam into the medial side of my foot and never recede?

    Thanks for your insightful reviews Nightwing

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    • February 24, 2013 at 3:05 am BeauW347

      I loved the Kobe’s for the first 20 mins I was playing in them. Unfortunately, after about 30 minutes the inside of my right foot started to hurt. I continued to play and after taking the shoes and socks off I had bruising on inner right side of my foot. Gave the shoes a second try and after it started again I knew there was a problem. The soles do not adequately cover the carbon fiber shank for the arch support so any time you make a cut or make a quick lateral move the shoe folds and the arch support digs into your arch. I unfortunately had to return them. My arch is pretty normal to maybe on the low side but they should’ve addressed this issue before releasing the shoe. I’m 6’4 205lbs and played college ball and crazy about shoes just like night wing just so you know its not a youngster writing the review but was really bummed about this issue. Good luck.

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      • April 27, 2014 at 4:48 pm makemehero

        hi BeauW347, I know this is a long time ago since you posted; but I just recently got my first pair of kobe 8 (elites on salie) and i’m having the same issue with them as you did (found this through some search). My inner part of my right foot hurts and I have bruising. I didn’t get this with my other kobes (I have multiple pairs of 6s.
        Did you see any improvement after awhile? If not, what shoes are you playing in these days? I’m wondering if the kobe 9s are better because it doesn’t have the shank.
        I’m planning to do some testing with the Jordan 2012 insoles to see if that’ll help.

        I’m not even sure if you’ll see this; but thanks anyways. It’s good to atleast know that I’m not the only one with the problem.

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        • February 4, 2015 at 9:28 pm nate

          what did you think about the 9s? i had a few pairs of 6s but went straight to 9s. and the 9s gave me these problems. i was surprised to just now here the 8s did that for you. hum i wanna talk about it real quick

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  • December 30, 2012 at 4:15 am Andrew

    Between this and CP3.VI, which would you prefer personally, as a guard?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 4:18 am Aaron Lee

    Do you have any clue when the kobe 8s “blue lights,” are coming out ?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 5:34 am mikko

    once again this is an amazing review. I definitely agree with all that’s been said. This SHOE IS RIDICULOUS. It’s like they’re trying to break the laws of physics by having something so negligible in weight and yet really present in terms of support and cushioning. People should just go out and buy it.

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    • December 30, 2012 at 5:44 am mikko

      Thanks for the shoutout Nightwing, fans over here in Manila are gonna love this one. You may not know this but you got a lot of followers from MNL. Keep it up man and more power!

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      • December 31, 2012 at 7:52 am Ian

        I’m one of them. LOL. Probably the reason why I bought Kobe V (comet cw). Nightwing2303 is a sneaker genius. Everything he said were true. I even sometimes remember him while playing basketball in RFM Gym (Mandaluyong) when I did a cut or did something with the shoe and I was like “shit that’s what nightwing just said”. LOL

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        • January 8, 2013 at 7:38 pm marc

          Hey Mikko I just want to ask do the sulfur 8s here in Ph have an xdr outsole?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 5:38 am blain

    nike ids on the way cant thank you enough I trust every word you say always bang on!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 5:54 am Shoehead

    Now Kobe 8 will not be a “Sleeper” anymore :D

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  • December 30, 2012 at 6:30 am Martin

    Will wearing Nike elite socks or Nike dri-fit socks make my feet slip in these shoes or is it just the Kobe sock that does that?

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    • December 30, 2012 at 2:07 pm Dennis40

      Try some cotton socks with about 70-80% cotton. Changing socks is much more simple than changing shoes

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  • December 30, 2012 at 7:28 am Brennan

    hey nightwing how long do you think these would last outdoors? give or take

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    • December 30, 2012 at 11:30 am mikko

      I’d give it a month or 2 of regular balling. It’s really made for hardwood

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    • December 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm Dennis40

      Depend on your court, a decent surface would last 2 to 3 months IMO :-/.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 7:45 am HIDE

    Hi,
    Read and watch alot of your reviews. I’m stuck for new basketball shoes to play in, but from your reviews, have narrowed it down to the kobe 8, kd v, or hyperdunk 2012, which would you say is the best one, or what order would you rank them in? thanks in advancw.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 8:54 am Jun

    Hey nightwing, I have a pair of Kobe 8s too, but my order got messed up and ended up with a size 9.5 and a 10. I didnt realize and started wearing them, but will this affect my performance?

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    • January 6, 2013 at 6:00 am Matt H.

      Just get the right size. Contact Nike or whoever you ordered from and get the right size!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 11:49 am qwerty

    Hey Nightwing! i have a question which foam would you prefer podulon or lunarlon? thanks in advance

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  • December 30, 2012 at 12:43 pm Usher

    Deym!!! Ima cope a lot of pair!!! looks very nice in casual wear as well, pure heat!!!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 1:35 pm Ali

    Hey, Nightwing. Are these better than the AdiRose 3?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm bpgatorfan

    Are these going to be released in a high like the kobe 7

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    • December 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm Dennis40

      That high is soft and does nothing but provide comfort if I’m not wrong

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      • December 31, 2012 at 7:54 pm bpgatorfan

        I know but i have a friend who wont play ball in shoe unless its high and a cushion is all he needs

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  • December 30, 2012 at 1:49 pm Frank the tank

    Hey bro awesome review as always! Sobim planning to get the nike id orthotic option. My question is that does the xdr sole work on dusty but smooth cement courts? Also wooden indoor courts? Pla lemme know whatcha think! Thanks more power!!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 2:32 pm Ben

    Hey Nightwing ! great review as always, but i didn’t understand if the kobe 8 already comes with the lunarlon inserts or i need to buy these separately, thanks and keep up your good work !

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  • December 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm southbeats15

    Nike did a great job with there sig line this year. All 3 a great performers. Thanks for the review NW2303!

    On to the next!

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  • December 30, 2012 at 4:05 pm Rian123

    Hey nightwing haha i have a question its my first time to buy a kobe shoe and i am going to ask about the fit. My shoe size is 9.5 on hyperdunk 2012 and all of the other shoe i usually give a 1/2 size up to all my shoe. I am asking do i need to pit a 1/2 size up in this kobe shoe or should i get my true size?thanks men haha

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  • December 30, 2012 at 4:19 pm alex

    ordered my id version before this review,very relieved with the review. the only thing i didn’t like about the 7’s, besides medial foot blisters at first, was the laces. the 8’s look like they have the same laces that dont stretch. soon as i put round laces in my 7’s they were money, probly have to do the same here?

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  • December 30, 2012 at 5:39 pm Pacquiao8

    Great review! I think i wanna grab these soon when they release more colorways.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 5:51 pm JD

    Awesome review man! Keep balling, awesome to here how well they performed.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm Brandon King

    Great review, as usual! I have been looking forward to these to see if they made up for the disappointing Kobe VII. I just hate I have to wait 7 months to try them out for myself.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 7:48 pm mike

    if i were to buy these at any retail store would they come with the lunaron cushining and the regular midsole also

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  • December 30, 2012 at 10:23 pm collins

    now I just have to wait on the Melo 9 and XX8 test. it would determine if I’m going after the 8’s, XX8’s, Melo 9 or Hyperposite.

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  • December 30, 2012 at 11:28 pm Ojnad

    hey NW, a question about the lunarlon insert. Im flat-footed and would like to try out the lunarlon setup (not thinking about getting the nike ID orthotics setup). You say there’s an arch on the lunarlon insert, and as a flat footed person I don’t have that arch on my foot, if I keep pressing on that arch on the insert, is it gonna flatten out? and rather quickly or will it take time to flatten out?

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  • December 31, 2012 at 12:01 am zack

    Hey Nightwing, great review! I’m not sure if this is a stupid question or not but i was just wondering what you would prefer more, the d rose 3 or the kobe 8s?

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  • December 31, 2012 at 2:00 am Ali

    Hey nightwing I was just watching your kobe 8 system performance review and you said that you can get another insole from NIKE ID. The only problem was that iI went ont he website and I couldn’t buy any without customizing another kobe 8 and buying it that way. Please help.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 3:44 am Ed

    Nice review.

    As far as fitting goes, is it possible for you to highlight how far up your toes sit in these shoes. I tried them on at Footlocker and the fit was perfect in my size. However, when I do a hard stop, I could feel like my big toe is jamming against the front of the toebox. Do you suggest that I go one size up for this reason? Thanks.

    Ps: Here is the picture I was referring to: http://weartesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Nike-Kobe-8-SYSTEM-Performance-Review-4.jpg

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  • December 31, 2012 at 4:14 am futbol3ro

    I think I just found my hoops shoe for 2013. Thanks nightwing! Happy New Year to you & to everyone here!

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  • December 31, 2012 at 6:23 am goolaman

    Kudos for another great review!

    By the way, you have refreshed your list on the right of your site to reflect the 2013 shoes. I was hoping I may compare it to the 2012 list and where on the top 10 spot it will land. Anyway just a suggestion though can you have a link on your site for the top 10 of 2012. I know there is a video for your personal favorites but i’m still looking for the the top 10 list in terms of attribute scores. Thanks!

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  • December 31, 2012 at 6:59 am mking

    Was the modularity pretty seamless with these? I liked the Jordan 2012’s but the module aspect was definitely apparent and was kind of a turn off.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 7:57 am Ian

    Yo, nightwing, I’d seen Jeremy Lin, James Harden, D-Will been using this Nike Lunar Hypergamer. Can you make a review of this shoe when you heal your wrist? Get well soon bro.

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    • December 31, 2012 at 7:59 am Ian

      It’s Lunar Hypergamer Low BTW. =)

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      • December 31, 2012 at 10:43 am Axel

        I’m not Nightwing but I have the Lunar Hypergamer Low. It’s a nice show overall. Great cushion with the lunarlon. Traction is good (pretty much the same as Hyperfuse 2012). The Hyperfuse upper is pretty stiff, even after breaking-in. That effects the fit a little bit. The biggest problem with them is the lack of flex in the fore-foot but it’s nothing like the Lebron 9.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 8:43 am LJ-Ian

    Does lunarlon wear out fast?

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  • December 31, 2012 at 2:52 pm Anton

    great shoe man

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  • December 31, 2012 at 3:00 pm Stephen

    How come you never reviewed the adipower howard 3?

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    • January 1, 2013 at 8:02 pm LampDamp

      The Howard 3s are basically the Howard 2s with a higher cut and slightly different materials, kinda like the Rose 773-2.5 relationship.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 3:05 pm JLA Reject

    I want sone of these ao bad! I have a feeling i will have multiples of these kicks! Nicely done Dragon expert!

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  • December 31, 2012 at 3:21 pm ben

    i know a guy who have thees and we were playing at the gym, a little 4 on 4 game and he was running up for the rebound, then when he came down he just fell and screamed liked there was no tomorrow. also the look about 21 years old and at least 5,10. so then we had to take him to the hospital. so i do not want these shoes anymore.

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    • December 31, 2012 at 8:23 pm collins

      did he fell on his ankle or twisted his knee?

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      • January 2, 2013 at 1:56 am ben

        he twisted his ankle and broke it.

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        • January 2, 2013 at 2:13 am collins

          not the shoes fault, it’s his style of play which is not according to the shoe design. this is why you need to tape you ankles when wearing low tops or suffer from supination. or plainly wear mid or high tops.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 4:33 pm bobj885

    Nice review. I might consider buying these.

    For a guard, if you had to choose between Lunarlon, Cushlon, Zoom Air, or Max Air, which one would you choose? I was just wondering since you said that Lunarlon breaks down over time.

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  • December 31, 2012 at 7:40 pm Sergiu

    @bobj885: I don’t think Zoom Air is responsive enough for an explosive guard after you’ve tried Lunarlon or foam cushioning in general. I’ve been playing with Lunarlon for more than half a year (Fly Wade 2) and it’s by far the best mix of responsiveness and comfort. I also sometimes play in a pair of 2011 Hyperdunks (Zoom Air) and they feel sluggish. I think adidas offers the most responsive foam cushioning with whatever they put in the Rose models, but its tougher on your feet in the long run so overall I’d still go with Lunarlon. Max Air ..forget about it. Cushlon never tried it. However Micro G sounds amazing from what NW’s experience with it…

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    • December 31, 2012 at 8:11 pm Clinton Russell

      I’ve worn the Micro G Black Ice and have the Kobe IV with Lunar Foam in the forefoot. To me, Micro G is amazing, and those would be my main shoes if they had an outrigger. The Kobe IV is still comfortable to this day, and although it has lost the responsiveness in the forefoot (after one week), they still offer good impact protection; the only reason I had to retire those was because they fit half a size too big.

      Foams, from my experience, offer great impact protection, but lose their responsive “bounce” feeling after playing in them for an hour or longer. With my Black Ice Mids, they feel bouncy for the first half hour of play, but after “beating them down a bit”, they feel harder, but still soft enough for good impact protection.

      The only reason I’ve held off on the Kobe 8s right now is because I have the 2k4 retros and those are good enough for me right now. I want shoes that have full length carbon fiber spring plates, plus I already have the Kobe 5s still in good shape. I will definitely buy these when they get cheap enough (or if my tax check is big enough lol).

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      • December 31, 2012 at 11:40 pm collins

        you meant if you overpaid your taxes. lol.

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    • December 31, 2012 at 8:20 pm collins

      Adidas use adiprene+ as their cushion with a combination of EVA I think. Micro-G is somehow similar to the Hyperdunks 2012 but a bit more comfortable. I found the Cushlon to be on the harder dense side. the Zoom Air as the most responsive and the Air Max is comfortable but with a different feel on them. for a guard, the obvious recommendation would be a shoe that doesn’t hinder much freedom of movement which would mean not having much ankle lockdown on them.

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  • January 1, 2013 at 12:45 pm Czar karlo

    nightwing im a big fan of yours from the phillipines, can you do reviews on nike lebron ambassadors,

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  • January 1, 2013 at 5:02 pm JZ

    Dope sweatshirt man sick.

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  • January 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm SuperConvoy

    Great Review as always! Was against the fence on these till now. Hope you do the AJ28. Are you going to get the Aj 1 Royals? If so where? I need those in my life.

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  • January 1, 2013 at 7:57 pm Markus

    Does anyone know where you can find the release dates of different colorways for the Kobe 8s?

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    • January 26, 2013 at 12:54 pm JJ

      Yeah just go to footlocker.com and go to the release calendar tab on the front page

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  • January 1, 2013 at 9:23 pm Daniel

    Hows the ankle support ?

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  • January 2, 2013 at 12:13 am TboneRare

    Great review.

    I admit that I was also a bit disappointed with the Kobe 7’s, but do like low top basketball shoes with a running shoe feel to it. That these shoes are less than 10 ounces and uses lunarlon are big selling points to me.

    Now, this particular colorway seems to inspire a lot of opinion, both in favor of and against. I think the camo inspired design on the upper may be off putting to some. If it were a straight black upper I think more would like the color. As for me, I liked it at first sight, and the more I look at it, the more I want this colorway. I love black shoes with yellow trim and these may be a bit too “loud” for some but I like it.

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  • January 2, 2013 at 3:17 am Lucas

    I’m little confused about this shoes and all this insoles stuff. I not quite sure if putting custom orthotics would be a problem for Kobe 8′s, because of this lunaron insole. I don’t know if i remove this lunaron insole and put ortho it will be a good idea? Or it’s better to move size .5 up to do it with insole lunaron already in.

    I try to find the option with air zoom on nike id, but there’s no such option. They only desribe something about choosing system but that’s it. Only thing i found in this topic was the insole itself for 40$ but i don’t get it. This insole are zoom air base or what? Because i don’t understand the price of 40$ for typical normal insole, it’s like a said before probably better to remove the lunaron insole and i will get the same without spending my money… Can someone explain me this facts?

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    • January 2, 2013 at 7:55 am collins

      it means there is no built-in midsole cushion. it somehow like those barefoot runners and nike free’s. the lunarlon insole itself acts as a midsole and insole in itself, same with the zoom air setup. there are 3 possible cushion setup, 2 of which are offered by Nike such as the Lunarlon and Air Zoom insole. the third type which is custom orthotics is merely a person’s preference if he doesn’t like the 2 setups.

      so it’s like Lunarlon for those who want comfort and better shock absorption, air zoom for responsiveness, and custom orthotics for a person’s specific needs.

      I understand what you mean regards to sizing up and putting an additional insole alongside the provided Nike insoles. I wouldn’t advice this since it would affect the fit and feel would be different than what is expected. if you are going to put a different insole, might as well interchange them rather than stack them together.

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      • January 2, 2013 at 11:42 am Lucas

        Thanks Collins I appreciate that. I still don’t know where to find air zoom unit insole, but i guess it’s not for me anyway, because i must to start using the ortho. So like you said there is only insole system and luck of build in system for this shoes. So i still don’t know what doing the third option that you mentioned, custom ortho. Because it’s not the insole that have some system i guess the thickness is only thing that this specify insole have is ridiculous thickness..So i guess is better to start without them and remove this typical with lunaron, as a i usually did in for example in my KD’s. But in kobe I don’t have and built system, so i think it’s only waste of money.

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        • January 2, 2013 at 1:25 pm collins

          to be honest, personally it doesn’t make sense when it comes to price point of the shoe if you are going to spent additional for the custom orthotics. but that is exactly the point of having customs. not all feet are created equal and some have specific feet concerns which most consumers don’t.

          I didn’t find the insoles being sold separately at the Nike website as well, so I’m not sure where others have seen them.

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          • January 2, 2013 at 7:21 pm Lucas

            You don’t find? http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/product/kobe-8-system-id-insert/?piid=30196&pbid=280483720#?pbid=280483720 here you go. So i don’t still know what is the purpose of this insole, because all i understand and now know is that the kobe 8s are bulk shoe with cushioning system in insole. So without it there are worthless for me. I must stick with KD’s V for while unfortunatly.

          • January 3, 2013 at 1:17 am collins

            thanks. those are more like inserts rather than insoles. a costly insert.

  • January 2, 2013 at 9:04 am Seth

    Mesh is my concern and feeling of spring/bounce/cushion (psychological). (Yes, I read everything thoroughly:). Just as a question which I should have already figured out after years and years…Should I have gone with the XDRs (assuming I chose “black” for my traction rubber? Indoor use only. (Clean/maintained floors 90% of the time). Is it just thicker and more resilient outdoor or a thinner more pliable rubber is better? In other words…Same rubber just thicker and will it make a difference? Guessing the normal non-translucent would be best? Only around 18 days to wait.

    On a more humorous note…I Guess I can’t sell my Kobe VIIIs if I don’t like them with my nickname on the tongues!! Not as if I would ever sell a shoe…so who am I kidding? Night–Wing in pink…nice touch. Ok I’m done ;)

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    • January 4, 2013 at 5:44 am Eurostep

      You high bro?

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  • January 2, 2013 at 2:38 pm Eurostep09

    Nice review bro.

    Still waiting for the review of hypergamer low
    It’s widely worn by guards in the nba so i guess it’s worth a look bro.

    :)

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  • January 2, 2013 at 5:10 pm JsOnMyFeetzSince1988

    Thanks for this review. I have been waiting to hear your thoughts on this shoe since photos surfaced. I think these will be my first Kobe’s and my shoe for 2013 when more colors are introduced.

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  • January 2, 2013 at 10:24 pm TboneRare

    I just purchased these from a local Footlocker and they are as good as the reviews state.

    The Kobe 8’s definitely have a more lighter and sleeker feel to it than the 7’s. I think these shoes will be perfect for me in the gym when I lift and do whole body exercises, good cushioning but with more stability than a running shoe.

    The upper mesh system seems to have a little more ‘give’ to it than the 7’s. I have slightly wide feet so even though it felt true to size, I wanted a little more width to give me comfort. The uppers don’t seem to stretch as much. If you have wide feet I would get half a size bigger just to be safe. The extra half size gives my feet a little more wiggle room and allows for thicker socks. It also gives room for your feet to ‘swell’ during the course of a basketball game or exercise session. Best thing is to go to a local shoe store and try them on for size.

    This color is a love it or hate it sort of thing but I absolutely love the color combination and it really is striking.

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  • January 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm intermidas

    i planned to buy Kobe 8 and i tried it at the local nikestore.

    It is true that the fit is less snug, but i feel less comfort with the lunarlon insole bc It doesnt cover all area of my mid-foot so i guess i need to go up 1/2 size, but the next problem is too much space at the forefoot. I guess that’s why Eastbay lists them as narrow.

    But overall, i found that your review is correct.. a very light shoes with good cushioning and nice upper material. Good review man!

    waiting for the next performance review..

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  • January 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm kobesystem8

    Hi i actually bought the Kobe 7 and i went one size up to US10 because size 9 was too tight. What size should i get for 8 if i am on US10 with kobe 7?

    and i heard there is an asian kobe 8 which is a little different from this.

    do they really make any big difference?

    thank you

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  • January 7, 2013 at 10:36 am geo

    Can’t see the rest of the list but im so pleased to see these on top. The Lebron X’s were either really horrible, or im just not used to airmax 360 anymore since the last full on airmax 360 was the Lebron 8 1st gen. This and the CP3 6 are in my rotation. Low cuts baby!

    That’s coming from a Power/Small Forward.

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  • January 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm Mark Anthony

    Hi Nightwing! I would like to ask i’m 6″0 tall and has a similar body figure to durant. Can you give me some advise as to what type of shoes should i buy? I usually shoot in mid range, and i like to do fast breaks. what specifically type of shoes should i have? is it kds, lebrons, kobes?

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  • January 9, 2013 at 10:16 am john trappa

    Nightwing, i wanna ask your opinion about which one better crazy light 2 or kobe 8?

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  • January 9, 2013 at 11:01 am Alyd

    Thanks for doing all these review! I appreciate it
    Btw do you feel the need to wear ankle wraps with these low cuts?

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  • January 10, 2013 at 12:41 pm john trappa

    not really

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  • January 10, 2013 at 8:09 pm Josh

    Man, thanks so much for the excellent review!! I almost didn’t try the Kobe 8 because the 7 was so narrow. I have really wide feet and it’s tough to find a good light shoe with solid traction and support. The 8’s are just amazing. Went a half size up and they’re easily the best-fitting and best-performing shoe I’ve ever worn on a court. So fast. Brought my game up a notch for sure. Never woulda tried ‘em without your site. Thanks!!

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    • January 11, 2013 at 12:47 pm john trappa

      thx for your suggestion, it helps me a lot^_^

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  • January 12, 2013 at 3:17 am Roger

    Hey Nightwing, would you say that the Kobe socks, are a glorified version of hospital socks? The ones with the little grips on them so you don’t slip on hospital floors?

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  • January 15, 2013 at 5:19 am loc

    do you know where cn i buy the insole foam piece alone without buying the whole shoe?

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  • January 20, 2013 at 2:40 pm Jacob

    Hey Nightwing. Do you know when additional colorways for this shoe will be released at a reatailer as Footlocker?

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  • January 22, 2013 at 12:18 am Jake

    When will more colorways be coming out?

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  • January 25, 2013 at 8:46 pm Tyler

    Which shoe do u think is better the lebron x or kobe 8

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  • January 26, 2013 at 3:53 am john

    for the fit, do you like the kobe 8 or the kd v?

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  • January 27, 2013 at 4:58 am Mike H

    Hey Nightwing, How would you compare the traction on these to the KD V’s?

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  • January 27, 2013 at 11:23 pm Jwin2321

    Hey nightwing, I know you didn’t recommend the Kobe system socks but do you know where I’d be able to find em? Just think that being able to complete the logo with the socks is pretty dop

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  • February 2, 2013 at 4:11 am Aaron Reed

    Hey I wear a size 12 in jordans would a 11.5 in the kobe 8’s be to small?

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  • February 6, 2013 at 10:35 am Matt

    Hey Nightwing, or any other big men out there…

    Do you think these would have enough cushioning for a power forward or center?

    I’m 6’8″ and 240 pounds. I love light shoes but also need enough cushion.

    Would these work?

    A reply would be awesome!

    Thanks

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    • February 14, 2013 at 6:07 pm Jonathan

      I’m 6’1 210, and they’re enough cushion for me, but my game is pretty low to the ground. You might wanna try the KDV, those have good cushion imo. I loved the KDV, but returned them because of a pretty nasty hot spot over my right pinky tearing up my toe knuckle. Who knows, they may work better for you.

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  • February 7, 2013 at 1:44 am Eurostep09

    Just sprained my ankle with these, haven’t been since forever.

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  • February 7, 2013 at 9:03 pm Patrick

    hey nightwing,

    im a true point gaurd and im really small and fast. i used to ball in some lebron 4’s because of the support and cushion but now the whole bottom of the shoe has completely fallen apart. recently i would have to result in playing in my free runs. i love the light weight, the flex and the ventalation, but i miss the support from my lebron 4’s. im scared i might roll my ankle in my free runs with my play style and do you think that these kobe 8’s would be my answer? or did you have any other shoe that you recommend?

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    • February 8, 2013 at 2:39 pm CB

      Hi,
      I play with the Kobe 8’s and their support is really good. The fit is super snug and they contain my heels perfectly, plus they are very stable, so my feet don’t move at all even when I make quick stops. I’m a fast point guard like you and I feel perfectly safe in these.
      Hope it helps you.

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  • February 8, 2013 at 12:25 pm John

    Have you done any reviews about Nike Kobe Zoom Venomenon 3?

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  • February 8, 2013 at 1:18 pm Gordon Ngiam

    Hi nightwing, im a power forward , not really that fast, but would these be suitable for me? If no, what other shoes would suit me? And regarding the XDR outsole, where do i get it?

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  • February 8, 2013 at 2:35 pm CB

    Hi Nightwing,
    I bought these because of your review and I must admit they are fantastic ! I made a second pair on Nike iD with an XDR outsole to play outdoors and the Lunarlon insole feels different, it is a bit softer and even more comfortable, maybe beacause of the color of the material (the insole is a bright lime color).
    Anyway, they fit perfectly well and just as you said they are great for a small fast-paced guard.
    Thanks again for your useful reviews !

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  • February 8, 2013 at 7:03 pm Oliver

    Hi Nightwing! I got a size 13 on my hyperdunk 2012 and it feels a little bit narrow do you think i should take sz 13 on the kobe 8 or a sz 14?

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  • February 9, 2013 at 8:28 am Glenn

    Kobe 8 or lebron 10?

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    • February 24, 2013 at 5:39 pm BigBoi

      what kind of stupid question is that?

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  • February 9, 2013 at 10:34 am Jp

    Thankfull to your blog i think it’s the best shoe for me but the colorways are so strange ?! I can’t find a color even with Nike Id :/

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  • February 14, 2013 at 1:04 am Christian

    Why dont u recommend wearing the socks

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  • February 14, 2013 at 6:41 am Ricky

    Hey Nightwing, overall did you like the Jordan Cp3.vi or the Kobe 8s better?

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  • February 16, 2013 at 12:03 am joão vicente

    What about durability? I’m thinking about buying these but I want to know if they can last me the hole season

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  • February 16, 2013 at 1:49 am KingMans

    Hi
    Just want to ask if the Kobe 8 is good for a PF/C player? thanks

    Keep up the good work

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  • February 19, 2013 at 1:44 pm Player

    Hello. Im a point guard and some times shooting guard and Im thinking about new shoes. What would you suggest me? Im thinking about kobe 8 hyperdunk and crazy light 2. Maby u now when nike/adidas will release hyperdunk 2013 or new crazy light ? Thanks for answers.

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  • February 21, 2013 at 6:49 pm Kidxprodigy

    i miss having low tops for basketball shoes do you recommend this as a low top basketball shoe or the cp3’s? or do you have another choice? please help hahaha thanks

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  • February 28, 2013 at 5:25 am AO

    I liked the Kobe 7’s…….but I guess I used them for casual not for basketball

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  • March 1, 2013 at 4:59 pm Big c

    I’m wearing them as casual wear shoes.. Will they tear up really bad?

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  • March 4, 2013 at 6:08 am Gestick

    Did the Kobe 8 grips in the court wtih a paint

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  • March 4, 2013 at 9:23 pm Nadav

    Hey nightwing, contemplating between the Ektio Breakaway and the Kobe 8,
    the thing is, i’m gonna use custom orthotics, since I have right knee pain, plus, I’m playing outdoor and indoor so i’m gonna need a durable shoe.
    So my only option is to buy from nikeID, eitherway, what would you recommend?
    i’m a guard 6’0
    Thanks alot.

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    • March 4, 2013 at 9:27 pm Nightwing2303

      You could go with either, just depend on how much hassle you want to got through waiting for the orthodic insert to arrive… unless you buy the shoes online.

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      • March 4, 2013 at 11:09 pm Nadav

        Thanks, Well it can take up to 6 weeks to arrive, i’m talking about the nike ID shoes.
        it’s more of a hassle and costs more..
        I guess it’s the breakaway then? gotta try it I guess.
        The breakaway could certainly fit a custom insole?
        Thanks man.

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  • March 4, 2013 at 10:10 pm Jim

    Hey nightwing , to get another lunarlon midsole for these you have to order a whole new pair fr Nike I’D or cam you just by the lunarlon insole separate

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  • March 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm Gcg

    the 3m swoosh scratched on mine… do you know if there is a way i can fix it

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  • March 12, 2013 at 1:46 am xHUSTLER4LIFEx

    Hey nightwing!..hey love what your doin and gr8 job!..was curious if you knew it says “KB24″ on the toe box just before the tongue starts? ..its on every colorway but ya gotta look hard, the blue colorway is prob the easiest to see imo…its stitched in there, did ya know?..

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  • March 13, 2013 at 11:17 pm Patrick Chen

    I got these in the blue light colorway i got these cuz you said they were good and theyre so comfy and play well. these are my go to shoes and id like to say thanks!

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  • March 14, 2013 at 4:37 am xballer04x

    hey i know you dont answer most these comments but i really need help in deciding between these and the lebron x…ive been having a lot of knee joint problems and was wondering whether the foam would be better in these or if the 360 unit would dissipate shock the most. i know in the kobe 6 the heel was suppose to take stress of the back and joints do any of these recent shoes do that?

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  • March 25, 2013 at 9:25 pm fsaeed

    I really love your reviews. Whenever i need advice on basketball related products, you are the most credible source I know of. I really need your help on this. I am a guard and after watching your reviews I have come down to 2 sneakers…the kobe 8 and the cp3.6. I just want to know that in your opinion, which sneaker is best for overall performance, fit, and which ones will last longer? Thanks

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  • March 26, 2013 at 8:30 am Sugui burack mambaru

    Beside being a big fan og kobe, your review of the shoe was the one that sealed the deal into buying this awesome guard shoes!..this shoe really fixed stuffs that went wrong with the kobe 7. Kobe 7 was not a bad shoe it was not really just that great…but the 8 was like sex on feet! the traction like you mentioned was crazy, the lockdown support in the ankle was a phenom and to think I went a size up, from a 11 to a 12 because of my wide feet!..the designed at first was a ‘nah!’ but eventually it grew on me to the point that Im really loving the look now!…I think im gonna buy more of this on different colorways…rock on nightwing!!

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  • March 30, 2013 at 1:44 pm mark248

    hey nightwing will the insole get flat if i used it too much?

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  • April 2, 2013 at 6:35 am xballer04x

    he stopped responding to this thread months ago lol

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  • April 2, 2013 at 10:34 pm Mary1331

    Do the kobe 7 run big or small my son is a size 9 wht size should I get

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  • April 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm Philip

    I don’t know if it’s my foot (am flexi-flat footed) but the carbon fiber on the side of my kobe 8 is cracking up. What do you suggest? Help!

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  • April 7, 2013 at 6:59 am Visik

    What is the durability of these shoes? better than the kobe 7?

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  • April 9, 2013 at 5:13 am TheKingDre

    Your reviews are on point Nightwing2303.

    I’m a Chicago hooper who usually loves playing in LBJ’s but as of late I’ve had a few issues with my X’s. 1) the translucent soles on my volts :-( I won’t hoop in these in another indoor court. 2) the “wide” feel or “roomy” feel has me slipping during hard cuts and in ‘D’.
    Things I love about the brons’ cushion cushion cushion. And did I say cushion?

    But thinking back on my last few games and playoff starting tomorrow. I’ve watching yours and kick geniuses performance vids about a dozen times and decided to take the jump.

    My only other question is I’m a 6’1″ 225lbs small forward. I hear you praise the shoe for guard play. I hear Kobe say just trust the shoe. But I’m a forward that loves to pass crash the board and start or finish those fast breaks.

    Holla at me, What do you think? It’s my 1st low top hooper.

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  • April 9, 2013 at 1:02 pm Smiley

    I have i squeaking problem with the kobe 7’s
    Every time i walk or just move my foot on the floor it makes an annoying squeak
    It’s probably cause of the interchangeable midsoles.
    Do the kobe 8’s still have those problems?
    Thanks man.
    Looks like these shoes are performance beasts.

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  • April 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm Smiley

    I’m 6’2 and 140 pounds.
    I’m skinny and i play center in highschool. (But i play point forward when i’m not in school)
    I’m quick for a center cause i’m very light so i tried buying a low cut shoe such as the kobe 7’s and as we all know. Those shoes suck. Too bad.
    Can’t wait to have my own pair of kobe 8’s
    Thanks bro. Nice review.

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  • April 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm Smiley

    I’m 6’2 and 140 pounds.
    I’m skinny and i play center in highschool. (But i play point forward when i’m not in school)
    I’m quick for a center cause i’m very light so i tried buying a low cut shoe such as the kobe 7’s and as we all know. Those shoes suck. Too bad.
    Can’t wait to have my own pair of kobe 8’s
    Thanks bro. Nice review!

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  • April 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm fl1pinoy

    What do you think about adding zoom air to lunarlon cushioning, I was expecting that in the Elite series edition, but guess not.

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  • April 14, 2013 at 7:53 am KDR11

    nightwing do u think its the shoe when kobe bryant torn his achilles??

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  • April 14, 2013 at 2:18 pm alex escoto

    @Nightwing2303 is this the same fit as the hyperdunk 2012 because I’m wide footed Thanks alot
    just a suggestion when you do reviews can you also tell the fit of the shoe for wide footed people? thanks keep up the good reviews!

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  • April 17, 2013 at 12:46 pm Brian

    @Nightwing2303 are these better than kd v

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  • May 9, 2013 at 7:47 pm BigJ

    After playing with this along with the Lunar HD. I can definitely say that I’m falling in love with foam cushioning more and more. Especially with the inconvenience I’m getting with my HD2011s. The forefoot zoom on my right shoe is way higher than the midsole that it gives me a sore forefoot after hours of playing. :/

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  • May 10, 2013 at 2:20 pm Haakon

    I have the lebron zoom soldier 6 and they fit me perfeclty in terms of width. Are the kobe 8’s more narrow or the same?
    Thanks

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  • May 11, 2013 at 12:28 am Kev

    can forwards wear this?
    i wore the kobe 6’s and i sprained my ankle quite a few times

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  • May 12, 2013 at 2:23 pm Manny

    I am 140 pounds and 5′ 6”, I can play any position but which shoe should I get when I want speed and security, KD V or Kobe 8?

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  • May 15, 2013 at 4:42 am RJ Ang

    i’m a big fan of your site, wanted to check with you on the overall durability of the engineered mesh on the Kobe 8. Do they scuff easily? How do they hold up after your tests? i plan to purchase them as my go to pair for basketball.

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    • May 27, 2013 at 1:27 am Justin P

      The only place that the kobes scuff is where the fuse overlay is. Ive had mine for about 4 months and play basketball 4-5 times a week for 4 or so hours and the engineered mesh holds up really well.

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  • May 27, 2013 at 7:37 pm Henry

    Hey nice review! You forgot to mention the thin-ness if the midsole/outsole though. They are much thinner than anyother shoes and they give superb courtfeel. I have to say that heel support isnt great. The plush collar does hug tightly but i feel its a bit roomy inside. Maybe its just me.

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    • May 27, 2013 at 7:53 pm Nightwing2303

      They are the same thickness as the kobe 7, jordan 2012 & most other shoes. They are softer and flexible which is why they have good court feel.

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      • June 9, 2013 at 6:37 am SNEAKERFIEND

        It’s actually the 1mm rubber outsole that gives the court feel on the Kobe 8, which is extremely low to the ground. Along with the flexible upper

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  • June 1, 2013 at 12:58 am Ali

    Hi night wing would you like to perform in the kobe 8 originals or kd v elite?

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  • June 4, 2013 at 6:38 am Finnnjake

    Hey nightwing2303
    can you suggest me which shoe is better
    i am on the fence about getting D Rose 3 or Kobe 8 system
    (btw i usually play on outdoors)

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  • June 4, 2013 at 8:55 am mikeee

    hey nightwing, does the asian release of kobe 8s. use Lunarlon as well?

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  • June 6, 2013 at 8:44 pm Steven Nguyen

    I have a Question.. How do you fix the paint (luminescint, A.k.a Glow in the dark paint) on the swoosh Nike sign on the Kobe 8 ASG/Area 72?!

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  • June 8, 2013 at 7:50 pm Jerry Carter

    Do you prefer the Kobe 8s or the Adidas Crazy quick?

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  • June 15, 2013 at 3:56 am Spencer

    Kobe 8 are good shoes but the phylon midsole and rubber outsoles doesn’t look firm like the kobe vii but the design look fluent

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  • June 17, 2013 at 9:40 am Llateballer41

    Kobe 8 or HD 2012 lows? And i am a PF who loves drive to the basket. And deffinedly i need low cut shoes

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  • June 17, 2013 at 11:34 pm Zman2124

    Who suffered injuries while wearing this shoe? Kobe did for one. Me and my friends are also having several foot issues when we started using this shoe. I started to hurt the arch of my foot like a nerve problem and this is the first time that this happened to me. The shoe is great but I’m just not sure if it’s too soft especially at the bottom sole part that it bends too much. Any feedback would be great

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  • June 21, 2013 at 4:44 pm logan

    hi nightwing i jut switched to a size 9 shoe but my dad said that it would be good if i got size 9.5 of the kobe 8 because i would grow into them will they be enough? will they work to their full capasity? Should i should i send them back?
    thanks logn

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  • June 23, 2013 at 10:03 am max

    Can you do a review on youtube of the kobe 8 blitz blue?

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  • June 25, 2013 at 2:34 am #cleankicks

    Nightwing2303 can you do a video review on the kobe 8 Venice Beach/ N7 and the dynamic pink

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  • July 2, 2013 at 9:05 am harman

    Hello,

    Been reading and enjoying your reviews for a while now. Just got a huge blister on the arch of my foot from the kobe 7’s, which has never happened to me before. Am i safe to go with the kobe 8’s or are they just to narrow?

    Thanks!

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  • July 2, 2013 at 10:30 pm Nick

    How’s the court feel on the kobe 8

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  • July 12, 2013 at 7:41 am mike

    after drooling over this performance review, and the overall shape of the shoe, i finally found a pair worth buying with the blitz blue. but something weird happened during the three days i have played in them.

    the traction is slippery? is this possible? i understand that the blitz blue is slightly translucent, but slippery?

    anyone hypothesis as to why? everything else is so awesome :D

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  • July 16, 2013 at 5:53 pm khanbAller

    awesome review nightwing!!!
    by the way what would u prefer,the kobe 8 or crazy qiuck for a player who has the same playing stlye as drose.

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  • July 19, 2013 at 8:52 am Kansas jaykawk bound

    Can a physical big man where these

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  • August 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm Adam

    Are the game royal olorways the same traction or xdr?

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  • September 15, 2013 at 5:56 pm Dennis

    Is Nike iD the only way to get the XDR outsole.

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  • September 24, 2013 at 4:55 pm david

    Is it good for bigs too?

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  • October 2, 2013 at 4:11 am franky

    These shoes were the best fitting upper and best flexibility shoes with a midfoot shank built in i have ever put on my feet by far. Such a natural feel and the more dense lunarlon is way better than hyperdunk 2012 (which only lasted me 3 months b4 my heel sank in the lunar pod and arches hurt) i was excited by the moulded lunarlon midsole to keep my flat feet supported but being so flexible and narrow with my wide feet just didnt work. My wide foot streached the shoe shell out as its so flexible but the lunarlon midsole stayed skinny…so my foot basically hung over the side edge of midsole pushing shoe edge out creating a gap annd sitting in that gap bummer cos i loved the shoe and thought it truly wicked! Me and my brother are both a size 13 shoe so we get to try a few shoes out

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  • December 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm Shayaan

    On NikeID, it has a midsole option by default, does that mean it would be like that in the regular version now? And with the price drop, would you recommend the Elites? And, lastly, would you recommend the LBJ X Elite and LBJ 11 as good guard shoes, as both feel light and amazing on my feet.

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  • January 1, 2014 at 4:41 pm Cade

    Hi do you think i should get kobe 8s and the hyperdunk 2013 or just get two pairs of kobes or just one pair of kobe 8s because i can get half off at nike cause my dads friend works at nike store so please tell me what u think is best cause im afraid the kobes will wear out if i use them on cement/asphalt thatsh why i might get two pairs thanks.

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  • January 3, 2014 at 4:00 pm Diego

    Hi,

    I was wondering if there are still any available insole options. Nike is not selling them separately anymore and I was wondering what will happen after the lunarlon insole wears off? Does anybody here know how the insole is holding up after a year or two of use? Because the build quality of the shoe becomes irrelevant if it isn’t matched by the durability of the lunarlon foam.
    Any advices?

    Thanks!

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  • April 30, 2014 at 5:36 am JOHN KURT COLLERA

    How will I know If I have XDR? THANKS=)))

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  • April 30, 2014 at 7:02 am JOHN KURT COLLERA

    Is there any way to strengthen and extend the durability of my Kobe’s traction? THANK YOU VERY MUCH =)))

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  • June 24, 2014 at 5:58 pm Mr. Ninja

    Where can i get these. In the find shoe thing it says retail $140 where could i get it at that price?

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  • November 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm brenda keturakis

    I love the Kobe 8’s but wear a custom orthotic. I can’t find the “zoom air laced orthotic ready insole option ” you talked about. I looked on Nike ID. and I called Nike customer service. Any tips where I can get it?
    Thanks

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    • November 21, 2014 at 4:56 pm Nightwing2303

      You’re two years too late.

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      • November 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm Brenda keturakis

        I meant i have them for my kobe 8’s but i dont deem to be able to find them for the kobe 9’s.

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  • November 24, 2014 at 5:37 pm Will

    Are these out yet?

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  • March 25, 2015 at 9:17 am xxlchxx

    Can a pf/c wear dem?

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